{"id":12797,"date":"2023-01-14T23:49:32","date_gmt":"2023-01-15T04:49:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/magazineampm.com\/?p=12797"},"modified":"2023-01-16T08:41:57","modified_gmt":"2023-01-16T13:41:57","slug":"shakira-bizarrap-pique-clara-schumann-brahms-despecho-musica","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/magazineampm.com\/en\/shakira-bizarrap-pique-clara-schumann-brahms-despecho-musica\/","title":{"rendered":"From Clara Wieck to Clara Ch\u00eda: Shakira did not invent spite"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No one demonized Brahms when those issues came to light about Clara Wieck, who was the wife of <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/magazineampm.com\/en\/ruido-y-furia-schumann-las-cartas-posmodernas-y-el-efecto-transitorio-de-la-luz\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Schumann <\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(her friend), and Brahms being Clara's alleged lover. There was no crazy moral conflict. The most conservative even disavowed this betrayal so that the music would not be affected. And we are talking about times when religious morality was in the veins, and we are talking about a musical genre that was always linked to divinity.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No one talked about possessive love when it was released in the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Carmen<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> of Bizet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And during the entire heyday of opera no one criticized the objectification of women, nor is it even criticized in today's opera. Nor do I. Now all it takes is for Shakira to mention a watch for the world to burn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I understand that no two musical periods can be analyzed from the same perspective, because times change and, with them, the way in which we appreciate music and the way in which it is expressed also changes.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"video-container\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"SHAKIRA || BZRP Music Sessions #53\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/CocEMWdc7Ck?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The \"despecho\" is a musical phenomenon, since ever. And it is so much in the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Four Questions<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Pedro Morales Pino as in a large part of Chavela Vargas' repertoire.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What is happening with all the Shakira - Piqu\u00e9 media chaos is that the trial to which Shakira is being subjected is not musical, but moral. A demonization linked to morality, to what is expected of her as a woman and not as an artist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The musical quality of the subject matter was the least of the issue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is not a matter of \"not comparing two genres that have nothing to do with each other\". I cannot compare classical music with the urban genre, nor ranchera with post-punk. But if a strictly moral judgment is to be made, a judgment of human quality, Brahms, Shakira and Piqu\u00e9 are just as human. The man who composes a song for his best friend's wife may have the same feeling as a woman scorned, although they express it in different ways.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Brahms was also explicit in putting Clara's name in a score, when that romance was almost explicit and she was married to someone close to him.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Shakira \"Didn't say it as beautifully as Brahms\"? I think so too. But is that judgment based on the beautiful? It all seems very contradictory and conservative to me. The morality and its aesthetic underpinnings, the demonization, the conservatism. Historically, spite has served as a musical inspiration, each one has channeled it in his own way and has been more or less explicit.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I honestly didn't like the song, neither on its own, nor in comparison with other Bizarrap sessions (like Nathy Peluso's or Villano Antillano's, which I think are much more aggressive; what happens here is that they don't contain anyone's name and, above all, there is not so much media focus on these two). But I find it very terrible that this \"I didn't like it\" that I have heard so much is based on \"well done\".\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It doesn't seem healthy to me that a musical judgment has so much moral weight, that all the meekness is expected from a person who is in pain and whose means of expressing her pain is music. And yes... I also find it very macho that women all their lives have had to keep quiet in the face of betrayal and rejection, that they have had to swallow it dry and translate their emotions in a \"nice\" way, without the crudeness with which these things are usually felt.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Too much fuss about a phenomenon that has occurred historically. And I understand that we live in a time where we find it necessary to debate about everything, where marketing is behind every word in many cases. Where the behavior of a public figure is judged when we are also lovers and we repeatedly sleep with our neighbor's partner in his or her face, and we make perhaps cruder manifestations of lovelessness.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Shakira did not invent spite. This is neither the evolution nor the involution of spite. It is just a media spite. Not even the most aggressive of all.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People are not usually so offended by some rap lyrics that are more explicit, that contain names and surnames. People are not usually so offended by the objectification of women in much of the urban genre, and in several chapters of the history of music, in absolutely all genres.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As easy as pressing <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">next<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in the player, as easy as trying to understand that human beings have always made music out of their passions, and that it's okay. Freedom is something fundamental when it comes to making music, so is sincerity, anywhere, at any time, in any genre. We may or may not identify with it, we may not like the song (as is my case), but it's his way of defending himself. It's their way of expressing it. No, of course I'm not going to criticize her position because I've also said horrors and, like Brahms, I've sat at a complicated table. And, like Shakira, I have felt like dropping a name, or even two. And I have dropped them and my environment has burned.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don't mind Clara Wieck's name on a score, nor do I mind Clara Chia's name on the song of the moment.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And let him who is without sin cast the first stone.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"video-container\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Cuban songs about spite\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/videoseries?list=PLOggfiFNpvL6f8Y1EVNhh-k43O__jeucI\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What is happening with all the Shakira - Piqu\u00e9 media chaos is that the trial to which Shakira is being subjected is not musical, but moral. 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